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SPECIAL OFFER! Build Facebook With Django and CRUD?
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David
2025-02-02 16:53:00 UTC
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Offer from John Elder
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Did you know that you can replicate any of the most complicated websites
out there with Django and Python quickly and easily?
Let me explain...
Think about Facebook...what is it?
Well...it's a website that lets you Create a Facebook post...or Read
someone else's post...or Update your post...or Delete your post...
Create - Read - Update - Delete...
C.R.U.D.
How about Twitter (or X or whatever stupid name they're calling it this
week)...
You can Create a Tweet, Read a Tweet, Update your Tweet (can you update
Tweets?) and Delete your Tweet.
C.R.U.D.
What about Instagram? Create a picture or video post, Read (View)
someone's  post, Update your Post, or Delete it...
C.R.U.D!
Just about any major website is built around the concept of CRUD.
Amazon.com? They can Create a product listing, read it, update it, and
delete it. It's all CRUD.
And Django makes it ridiculously easy to do CRUD. In fact, Django does
all the work for you...practically automatically.
Databases handle all of this CRUD stuff, and with Django - you don't
have to know ANYTHING about databases to do CRUD.
Django abstracts away the database layer and does all the coding for you.
It also handles all the forms, webpages, and all the nasty hard stuff
that goes on behind the scenes.
If you learn how to do CRUD with Django, you can create just about any
type of website you want.
If you want to learn CRUD with Django...I can teach you in just a few
hours. No kidding.
I've got a 74-video course called "Intermediate Django - Address Book
App" that will walk you from beginner thru intermediate Django and teach
you CRUD by building a fun little address book app.
It's a cool app where you can add contacts; their names, addresses,
emails, a little picture of the person if you want...that sort of thing.
But it's all CRUD... You can Create a contact...Read (view) the
contact...Update the contact...or Delete the contact. CRUD!
You won't JUST learn CRUD in this course...there's all sorts of other
cool things to learn too...
You'll learn User Authentication with Django...so you can have website
members sign up, log in, log out...update their accounts, all that good
stuff.
We'll also push the whole thing online using web hosting and a domain name.
...and all sorts of other fun things too.
Normally $49...you can get the whole thing today for just $9...which is
pretty ridiculous.
ORDER HERE -----> https://members.codemy.com/intermediate-django-
address-book-app/
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.

Anyone?
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David
Steve Carroll
2025-02-02 17:42:28 UTC
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Post by David
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.
Anyone?
More 'eye batting'? ;)
David
2025-02-02 17:54:54 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by David
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.
Anyone?
More 'eye batting'? ;)
Does John know MUCH more than you?

Would YOU learn from his course?
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David
%
2025-02-02 18:12:33 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by David
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.
Anyone?
More 'eye batting'? ;)
Does John know MUCH more than you?
Would YOU learn from his course?
david , you're a star i haven't seen nothing this shifty in years ,
good posting
David
2025-02-02 18:50:01 UTC
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Post by David
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by David
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.
Anyone?
More 'eye batting'? ;)
Does John know MUCH more than you?
Would YOU learn from his course?
david , you're a star i haven't seen nothing this shifty in years ,
good posting
John lder and his products look genuine to me.

Do you know different?
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David
%
2025-02-02 19:08:23 UTC
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Post by David
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by David
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.
Anyone?
More 'eye batting'? ;)
Does John know MUCH more than you?
Would YOU learn from his course?
david , you're a star i haven't seen nothing this shifty in years ,
good posting
John lder and his products look genuine to me.
Do you know different?
oh no , you're not pulling me into this
Steve Carroll
2025-02-02 18:06:49 UTC
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Post by David
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.
If he doesn't, his site is a ripoff ;)

<https://codemy.com/about/>

"Watch Some Videos Learn To Code!"

Uh... no! If that were actually the case, why these:

<https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Programming-John-Elder-Computers-Technology/s?rh=n%3A3839%2Cp_27%3AJohn%2BElder>
Apd
2025-02-03 11:46:19 UTC
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Post by David
Did you know that you can replicate any of the most complicated
websites out there with Django and Python quickly and easily?
I can't see that happening when you struggle with making free
Wordpress sites.
Post by David
C.R.U.D.
"A deposit or incrustation of filth". Otherwise, another computer
acronym we don't need. I'd never heard of it but am familiar with the
concept.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Create,_read,_update_and_delete>
Post by David
Just about any major website is built around the concept of CRUD.
Shopping and social media. Pah!
Post by David
Databases handle all of this CRUD stuff, and with Django - you don't have
to know ANYTHING about databases to do CRUD.
But you have to know some Python.
Post by David
We'll also push the whole thing online using web hosting and a domain name.
So you'll be getting a domain name and buying server space where you
can set things up as you want?
Post by David
Normally $49...you can get the whole thing today for just $9...which is
pretty ridiculous.
ORDER HERE -----> (don't bother)
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.
Why would you do that? It's not for someone unfamiliar with the
technicalities of web servers and programming. Start here to see
what it's really about:

<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn_web_development/Extensions/Server-side/Django>

Then here:

<https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.1/>
Steve Carroll
2025-02-03 17:28:46 UTC
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Post by Apd
Post by David
Did you know that you can replicate any of the most complicated
websites out there with Django and Python quickly and easily?
I can't see that happening when you struggle with making free
Wordpress sites.
Post by David
C.R.U.D.
"A deposit or incrustation of filth". Otherwise, another computer
acronym we don't need. I'd never heard of it but am familiar with the
concept.
I've mentioned it several times over the years, once to you, in your
Post by Apd
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Create,_read,_update_and_delete>
Post by David
Just about any major website is built around the concept of CRUD.
Shopping and social media. Pah!
Post by David
Databases handle all of this CRUD stuff, and with Django - you don't have
to know ANYTHING about databases to do CRUD.
But you have to know some Python.
Only if you want to understand what you're doing ;)

While many of these courses do explain things as they go, unless you
really focus on what you don't immediately understand and practice it
for a bit (take it apart... tweak it, see what breaks it), you're not
likely to 'learn' all that much (again: where 'learn' means the
knowledge sticks to some extent).
Post by Apd
Post by David
We'll also push the whole thing online using web hosting and a domain name.
So you'll be getting a domain name and buying server space where you
can set things up as you want?
Post by David
Normally $49...you can get the whole thing today for just $9...which is
pretty ridiculous.
ORDER HERE -----> (don't bother)
It's not a great deal of money. If someone else will buy and play with
this for a few weeks, I'm tempted to apply.
Why would you do that? It's not for someone unfamiliar with the
technicalities of web servers and programming. Start here to see
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn_web_development/Extensions/Server-side/Django>
<https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.1/>
'Out of the box Django' has come a long way (especially on the front
end) and it's arguably the better choice for people who know more Python
than JS, are new to web dev and/or don't need as much flexibility as
JS can offer. That said, this flexibility comes as a cost, you'll
likely have to do things that the more opinionated (read:
pre-configured) Django took care of in the Python environment.
Apd
2025-02-03 18:58:29 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
C.R.U.D.
"A deposit or incrustation of filth". Otherwise, another computer
acronym we don't need. I'd never heard of it but am familiar with the
concept.
I've mentioned it several times over the years, once to you, in your
I expect I thought it meant "crap"!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
you don't have to know ANYTHING about databases to do CRUD.
But you have to know some Python.
Only if you want to understand what you're doing ;)
While many of these courses do explain things as they go, unless you
really focus on what you don't immediately understand and practice it
for a bit (take it apart... tweak it, see what breaks it), you're not
likely to 'learn' all that much (again: where 'learn' means the
knowledge sticks to some extent).
Without a real interest in the subject at some nut & bolts level, you
won't get far.
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
<https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.1/>
'Out of the box Django' has come a long way (especially on the front
end) and it's arguably the better choice for people who know more Python
than JS, are new to web dev and/or don't need as much flexibility as
JS can offer. That said, this flexibility comes as a cost, you'll
pre-configured) Django took care of in the Python environment.
Like building sites at wordpress.com but not as easy. If BD has
trouble with that and the little examples in Python we've posted here,
what chance of him becoming a web developer?!

You don't need to buy hosting to play with Django but can set up your
own localhost server. Have you used it?
Steve Carroll
2025-02-03 20:31:55 UTC
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Post by Apd
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
C.R.U.D.
"A deposit or incrustation of filth". Otherwise, another computer
acronym we don't need. I'd never heard of it but am familiar with the
concept.
I've mentioned it several times over the years, once to you, in your
I expect I thought it meant "crap"!
I doubt it:

"That app, that you probably can't see well, performs crud ops to
mongoDB."
Post by Apd
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
you don't have to know ANYTHING about databases to do CRUD.
But you have to know some Python.
Only if you want to understand what you're doing ;)
While many of these courses do explain things as they go, unless you
really focus on what you don't immediately understand and practice it
for a bit (take it apart... tweak it, see what breaks it), you're not
likely to 'learn' all that much (again: where 'learn' means the
knowledge sticks to some extent).
Without a real interest in the subject at some nut & bolts level, you
won't get far.
You'd be surprised (shocked, even). There are plenty of people building
'things' who are 'too far removed' from too many of the 'nuts & bolts'.
Post by Apd
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
<https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.1/>
'Out of the box Django' has come a long way (especially on the front
end) and it's arguably the better choice for people who know more Python
than JS, are new to web dev and/or don't need as much flexibility as
JS can offer. That said, this flexibility comes as a cost, you'll
pre-configured) Django took care of in the Python environment.
Like building sites at wordpress.com but not as easy.
Django is much harder.
Post by Apd
If BD has trouble with that and the little examples in Python we've
posted here, what chance of him becoming a web developer?!
None. That's why I responded the way I initially did ('eye batting').
Post by Apd
You don't need to buy hosting to play with Django but can set up your
own localhost server. Have you used it?
Years ago I 'played' with it. You can set up the same in node (remember
the demo Express app I gave you?). And now there's 'deno', 'bun',
'mithril', etc. ;)

(I know, so many things change at a *ridiculous* rate in web world)
Apd
2025-02-03 21:54:20 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
Post by Steve Carroll
I've mentioned it several times over the years, once to you, in your
I expect I thought it meant "crap"!
"That app, that you probably can't see well, performs crud ops to
mongoDB."
I don't remember now. I probably glossed over it.
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
Without a real interest in the subject at some nut & bolts level, you
won't get far.
You'd be surprised (shocked, even).
Maybe I would.
Post by Steve Carroll
There are plenty of people building 'things' who are 'too far removed'
from too many of the 'nuts & bolts'.
I know Wix and Wordpress can be used but not about what else is
available.
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
Post by Steve Carroll
pre-configured) Django took care of in the Python environment.
Like building sites at wordpress.com but not as easy.
Django is much harder.
That's what I thought.
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
If BD has trouble with that and the little examples in Python we've
posted here, what chance of him becoming a web developer?!
None. That's why I responded the way I initially did ('eye batting').
I don't know why he's even contemplating it.
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Apd
You don't need to buy hosting to play with Django but can set up your
own localhost server. Have you used it?
Years ago I 'played' with it. You can set up the same in node (remember
the demo Express app I gave you?).
Er... pass.
Post by Steve Carroll
And now there's 'deno', 'bun', 'mithril', etc. ;)
(I know, so many things change at a *ridiculous* rate in web world)
No stability.
David
2025-02-03 23:13:25 UTC
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Post by Apd
I don't know why he's even contemplating it.
What I was hoping was that I could persuade John to come here to ACW and
teach everyone!

Have you reviewed any of the course videos on his site?

https://codemy.com

John speaks rather fast for my liking, but I just love his dog!
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David
Apd
2025-02-04 13:01:33 UTC
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Post by Apd
I don't know why he's even contemplating it.
What I was hoping was that I could persuade John to come here to ACW
and teach everyone!
He's trying to flog videos and books and is going to give free courses
here? Yeah, right.
Post by David
Have you reviewed any of the course videos on his site?
I checked the Django one which showed Python being written. Did you
read at least the introductory parts of the links given in my first
post? Do you really think developing web sites/apps at that level is
for you?
Post by David
https://codemy.com
John speaks rather fast for my liking, but I just love his dog!
There's a transcipt to read.
David
2025-02-04 17:42:43 UTC
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Post by Apd
Post by David
Post by Apd
I don't know why he's even contemplating it.
What I was hoping was that I could persuade John to come here to ACW
and teach everyone!
He's trying to flog videos and books and is going to give free courses
here? Yeah, right.
You never know! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cDgWu-7MVq8
Post by Apd
Post by David
Have you reviewed any of the course videos on his site?
I checked the Django one which showed Python being written. Did you
read at least the introductory parts of the links given in my first
post? Do you really think developing web sites/apps at that level is
for you?
Of course I don’t!
Post by Apd
Post by David
https://codemy.com
John speaks rather fast for my liking, but I just love his dog!
There's a transcript to read.
Thanks for bothering to take a look!
--
David
Apd
2025-02-04 19:46:18 UTC
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Post by David
Post by Apd
Post by David
What I was hoping was that I could persuade John to come here to ACW
and teach everyone!
He's trying to flog videos and books and is going to give free courses
here? Yeah, right.
You never know! ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cDgWu-7MVq8
The link is:
<https://tkinter.com/widget-book>

It's just a list of widgets and he wants your name and email address
so he can send regular spam about his courses. No thanks.
Post by David
Post by Apd
I checked the Django one which showed Python being written. Did you
read at least the introductory parts of the links given in my first
post? Do you really think developing web sites/apps at that level is
for you?
Of course I don't!
So why say you're thinking of paying for any of this?
%
2025-02-04 20:05:14 UTC
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Post by Apd
Post by David
Post by Apd
Post by David
What I was hoping was that I could persuade John to come here to ACW
and teach everyone!
He's trying to flog videos and books and is going to give free courses
here? Yeah, right.
You never know! ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cDgWu-7MVq8
<https://tkinter.com/widget-book>
It's just a list of widgets and he wants your name and email address
so he can send regular spam about his courses. No thanks.
Post by David
Post by Apd
I checked the Django one which showed Python being written. Did you
read at least the introductory parts of the links given in my first
post? Do you really think developing web sites/apps at that level is
for you?
Of course I don't!
So why say you're thinking of paying for any of this?
it gets everyone posting and saying no don't do it ,
leaving him all kinds of replies to reply too

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