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David
2025-02-28 11:38:21 UTC
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Mike Easter
2025-02-28 17:55:51 UTC
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Are you shuddering at what Chaz Won said, which seems to be full of
errors, or what Robt Hicks said in rebuttal, which was quite different.

Whenever you encounter a person or media interpretation of some alleged
'study' or a citation thereof, you should *first* see if you can access
the *actual* study, so that there isn't anything left out.

Any study itself may be biased even if it is allegedly 'scientific'.

Here is the cited Pew article itself which you can read for yourself,
rather than take Chaz or Robt's opinions/interpretations:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/04/06/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/

The wp article on Pew says non-partisan; the disagreements in the Talk
section of that article range from 'conservative' to 'Democrat'. My
opinion which isn't based on much is that it is conservative.

If you want to know what is 'going on' w/ the major religion
populations, I recommend the wp article on 'Religion' which of course is
a very very long article w/ many many branches, one of which is
Post by David
Demographic classification
Main articles: Major religious groups and List of religious populations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion#Demographic_classification

The wp article cites Pew Research, less uptodate than at the Pew site.
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Mike Easter
2025-02-28 19:45:57 UTC
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If you want to know what is 'going on' w/ the major religion
populations, I recommend the wp article on 'Religion' which of course is
a very very long article w/ many many branches, one of which is
And another thing...

What /really/ should 'matter' to you is NOT the 'world' numbers, if you
harbor religious prejudices. The world is full of all kinds of growing
Christian numbers, but that is NOT the case in countries which actually
matter to you.

What you must actually care about is what is happening to /your/
religious branch, which is NOT Catholicism, but a branch of Protestant
Christianity *IN THE .UK* compared to that of Muslims, also in the .uk.
You must worry that they will outnumber your faith and value such as
Sharia law/beliefs over your .en common law or Christian principles.

Likewise Christianity in the .us is shrinking in favor of non-religious,
which is quite understandable to me, and 'appropriate' by some metric of
the word.
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David
2025-02-28 20:56:36 UTC
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If you want to know what is 'going on' w/ the major religion
populations, I recommend the wp article on 'Religion' which of course
is a very very long article w/ many many branches, one of which is
And another thing...
What /really/ should 'matter' to you is NOT the 'world' numbers, if you
harbor religious prejudices. The world is full of all kinds of growing
Christian numbers, but that is NOT the case in countries which actually
matter to you.
What you must actually care about is what is happening to /your/
religious branch, which is NOT Catholicism, but a branch of Protestant
Christianity *IN THE UK* compared to that of Muslims, also in the .uk.
You must worry that they will outnumber your faith and value such as
Sharia law/beliefs over your .en common law or Christian principles.
I absolutely *DO* worry about that!!!!
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Likewise Christianity in the .us is shrinking in favor of non-religious,
which is quite understandable to me, and 'appropriate' by some metric of
the word.
What *YOU* should be concerned about is what a fool your very own
president has made of himself in front of a world-wide audience today.

His display of bullying will /never/ be forgotten.

I hope our king rescinds his recent invitation for a State Visit.

EVERY American should be ashamed of what transpired in the White House
today.
%
2025-02-28 21:16:47 UTC
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<shudder>
If you want to know what is 'going on' w/ the major religion
populations, I recommend the wp article on 'Religion' which of course
is a very very long article w/ many many branches, one of which is
And another thing...
What /really/ should 'matter' to you is NOT the 'world' numbers, if
you harbor religious prejudices. The world is full of all kinds of
growing Christian numbers, but that is NOT the case in countries which
actually matter to you.
What you must actually care about is what is happening to /your/
religious branch, which is NOT Catholicism, but a branch of Protestant
Christianity *IN THE UK* compared to that of Muslims, also in the .uk.
You must worry that they will outnumber your faith and value such as
Sharia law/beliefs over your .en common law or Christian principles.
I absolutely *DO* worry about that!!!!
Post by Mike Easter
Likewise Christianity in the .us is shrinking in favor of
non-religious, which is quite understandable to me, and 'appropriate'
by some metric of the word.
What *YOU* should be concerned about is what a fool your very own
president has made of himself in front of a world-wide audience today.
His display of bullying will /never/ be forgotten.
I hope our king rescinds his recent invitation for a State Visit.
EVERY American should be ashamed of what transpired in the White House
today.
it was like watching you post
David
2025-02-28 23:54:55 UTC
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On 28/02/2025 21:16, % wrote:
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it was like watching you post
So here is the rub. If a controlled asset became President of the USA,
what actions would we expect that person to take?

1. Destabilize the economy with inflation and mass unemployment.

2. Undermine the military. Purge senior officers. Place loyalists in charge.

3. Undermine the law. Corrupt the high courts.

4. Confuse the general public with false information.

5. Undermine political and military alliances.

6. Support the enemy nation that has placed you in power.

7. Place other (unqualified) enemy agents in positions of authority.

8. Take control of the nation’s assets (gold?) and the banks.

9. Threaten and frighten all opponents.

10. Shut down the media!
Brock McNuggets
2025-03-01 00:03:09 UTC
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Post by %
it was like watching you post
So here is the rub. If a controlled asset became President of the USA,
what actions would we expect that person to take?
1. Destabilize the economy with inflation and mass unemployment.
2. Undermine the military. Purge senior officers. Place loyalists in charge.
3. Undermine the law. Corrupt the high courts.
4. Confuse the general public with false information.
5. Undermine political and military alliances.
6. Support the enemy nation that has placed you in power.
7. Place other (unqualified) enemy agents in positions of authority.
8. Take control of the nation’s assets (gold?) and the banks.
9. Threaten and frighten all opponents.
10. Shut down the media!
Trump is working on each of those:

1. Destabilizing the economy with inflation and mass unemployment:
* Imposition of tariffs: In February 2025, President Trump signed executive
orders imposing a 25% tariff on goods from Mexico and Canada, and a 10% tariff
on imports from China. These tariffs have raised concerns about potential
inflation and job losses due to increased production costs and retaliatory
measures from trade partners. 

2. Undermining the military by purging senior officers and placing loyalists
in charge:
* Changes in military leadership: The administration has initiated policies
that have led to significant shifts in military leadership, including the
removal of senior officers and the appointment of individuals aligned with the
President’s views. 

3. Undermining the law and corrupting the high courts:
* Challenging judicial independence: The administration has implemented
actions aimed at expanding presidential power over independent agencies,
potentially undermining judicial independence and leading to legal challenges.


4. Confusing the general public with false information:
* Reversals of policy decisions: In the initial weeks of the second term, the
administration has reversed multiple high-profile decisions due to operational
issues and public backlash, leading to confusion and undermining public trust.


5. Undermining political and military alliances:
* Withdrawal from international agreements: The administration has withdrawn
the U.S. from international agreements, such as the Paris Climate Accord and
the UN Human Rights Council, actions that have strained relationships with
longstanding allies. 

6. Supporting enemy nations:
* Trade policies affecting alliances: The imposition of tariffs and threats of
further economic measures have created tensions not only with traditional
adversaries but also with allied nations, leading to questions about the
administration’s foreign policy priorities. 

7. Placing unqualified individuals in positions of authority:
* Appointments lacking relevant experience: The administration has appointed
individuals to significant positions who may lack traditional qualifications,
raising concerns about their ability to effectively manage their roles. 

8. Taking control of the nation’s assets and banks:
* Economic policies affecting financial institutions: While there have been
significant economic policy shifts, there is no clear evidence to suggest a
direct takeover of national assets or banks by the administration.

9. Threatening and frightening all opponents:
* Creation of a climate of fear: The administration has initiated actions that
have led to a climate of fear within the federal workforce, including mass
layoffs and restructuring efforts. 

10. Shutting down the media:
* No direct shutdowns, but adversarial stance: While the administration has
not shut down media outlets, it has maintained an adversarial relationship
with the press, often criticizing and undermining media credibility.
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Brock McNuggets
2025-02-28 23:59:11 UTC
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<shudder>
If you want to know what is 'going on' w/ the major religion
populations, I recommend the wp article on 'Religion' which of course
is a very very long article w/ many many branches, one of which is
And another thing...
What /really/ should 'matter' to you is NOT the 'world' numbers, if you
harbor religious prejudices. The world is full of all kinds of growing
Christian numbers, but that is NOT the case in countries which actually
matter to you.
What you must actually care about is what is happening to /your/
religious branch, which is NOT Catholicism, but a branch of Protestant
Christianity *IN THE UK* compared to that of Muslims, also in the .uk.
You must worry that they will outnumber your faith and value such as
Sharia law/beliefs over your .en common law or Christian principles.
I absolutely *DO* worry about that!!!!
Post by Mike Easter
Likewise Christianity in the .us is shrinking in favor of non-religious,
which is quite understandable to me, and 'appropriate' by some metric of
the word.
What *YOU* should be concerned about is what a fool your very own
president has made of himself in front of a world-wide audience today.
He is a toddler who should be nowhere near the White House. And the US has no
excuse. For his first term people could argue the office would mature him. It
did not. It made him worse. He is yet worse now. A lot worse.
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His display of bullying will /never/ be forgotten.
I hope not. You have been more forgiving of him. Glad you are calling him out.
I wonder if his biggest supporter in this group will finally do so as well.
Can we at least agree on this!
Post by David
I hope our king rescinds his recent invitation for a State Visit.
EVERY American should be ashamed of what transpired in the White House
today.
It was shameful and disgusting.
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