Eclectic Light Company Founder Dr. Howard Oakley

[David Brooks]

//Dr. Howard Oakley is currently a developer of Mac software and is the
founder of The Eclectic Light Company. Howard started life keenly
interested in medicine, attended Oxford, and spent most of his career
with the British Royal Navy as a doctor, ascending to the rank of
Surgeon Commander. Along the way, he became heavily involved with
computers and programming. His first encounter with a Mac SE and MPW
hooked him for life.

We chatted about his life and times as a navy physician, his parallel
evolution as a Mac developer, his amazing blog, The Eclectic Light
Company, his writing for Mac Format, and some of his amazing free
software: Aquiline Check, Consolation and SilentKnight, tools he wanted
for himself. Howard delves into security issues, like XProtect, in a way
that few other developers do.//

https://www.macobserver.com/podcasts/background-mode-howard-oakley/

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Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

TIA

[Mike Easter]

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel,

HO has a LOT more history, chronologically and by his various
experiences than JD; and, even more importantly, by the 'exposure' of
his history by himself and others.

JD's exposure is much *much* less, a little from his website/s over the
years, which is mostly just about his software, not verbose blogging and
also what people like BDB (or even ME) can dig up from digging around on
the internet.

There has been more exposure here of JD & his company and life partner
w/o any intention from them than he would likely want.

Meanwhile, YOU want *more*.

[David Brooks]

Post by Mike Easter

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel,

HO has a LOT more history, chronologically and by his various
experiences than JD; and, even more importantly, by the 'exposure' of
his history by himself and others.
JD's exposure is much *much* less, a little from his website/s over the
years, which is mostly just about his software, not verbose blogging and
also what people like BDB (or even ME) can dig up from digging around on
the internet.
There has been more exposure here of JD & his company and life partner
w/o any intention from them than he would likely want.
Meanwhile, YOU want *more*.

Here's a "Comment" .......

jimgbuffalo on April 22, 2024 at 6:44 am Reply
My favorite is the common assertion, regularly regurgitated by those
with many thousands of points, that “Macs don’t get viruses,” quite
stupidly ignoring the fact that the term “virus” in the new millennium
has been subsumed within the more comprehensive term “malware,” for
malicious software. Proletarian users know they have been infected with
“something” and simply inquire about remediation. In which case Apple
Discussions routinely mutate into a wholly owned subsidiary the
commercial corporations Malwarebytes Inc. and Etresoft Inc. Lowly
ignoramuses are condescendingly instructed by the illuminate to accept
blame for their transgressions and look no further. Fortunately for the
Mac community there are brilliant inquiring minds elsewhere on the
internet who are devoted students of the subject matter and endeavor to
enlighten rather than dismissively obfuscate – and hawk their wares. We
love our Macs and want them to work well. Trite, narrowly dismissive
tripe does nothing to promote this worthy goal.

From "Comments" here:-
https://eclecticlight.co/2024/04/21/last-week-on-my-mac-does-apple-support-its-security-software/

[Tyrone]

On Apr 23, 2024 at 4:41:23 PM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

[David Brooks]

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 23, 2024 at 4:41:23 PM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

Investigating - that's a word I prefer to use.

I'm guessing he's evading YOUR research too, eh?!!

[Kelly Phillips]

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:13:39 +0100, David Brooks

Post by David Brooks

On Apr 23, 2024 at 4:41:23?PM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

Investigating - that's a word I prefer to use.

Of course you do, but stalker and slimer are more accurate.

[Tyrone]

On Apr 25, 2024 at 6:13:39 AM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 23, 2024 at 4:41:23 PM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

Investigating - that's a word I prefer to use.
I'm guessing he's evading YOUR research too, eh?!!

I don't stalk people.

[David B.]

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 25, 2024 at 6:13:39 AM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 23, 2024 at 4:41:23 PM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

Investigating - that's a word I prefer to use.
I'm guessing he's evading YOUR research too, eh?!!

I don't stalk people.

I take that to mean that *you don't care* a damn if he makes a living by
illegal means.

He's said himself that EtreCheck cannot and does not support him
financially.

Maybe his 'partner' supports him financially. I have no idea of the facts.

[Tyrone]

Post by David B.

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 25, 2024 at 6:13:39 AM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 23, 2024 at 4:41:23 PM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

Investigating - that's a word I prefer to use.
I'm guessing he's evading YOUR research too, eh?!!

I don't stalk people.

I take that to mean that *you don't care* a damn if he makes a living by
illegal means.

No. It means I don't give a damn HOW he makes his living. Its none of my
business.

Post by David B.
He's said himself that EtreCheck cannot and does not support him
financially.

Then he probably has a real job. Did that ever occur to you? Most people
don't make a living selling small scale computer software that costs $20 (or
whatever) per user. Why does that bother you? How is that illegal?

Why don't you start "investigating" App Store authors who are selling $5
games? Do you think that is how they earn a living? Do you think that the
authors of Thunderbird are making a living off of free software?

Post by David B.
Maybe his 'partner' supports him financially. I have no idea of the facts.

The question - as always - is: Why do you even care? What business is it of
yours how anyone makes a living?

THIS ongoing shit is why you are banned from ASC (and other) forums. You ARE
stalking this person. Trying to find out how - and how much - someone earns
his money is the very definition of stalking. No one wants be seen as helping
you.

Because when the hammer comes down on you (and it surely will at some point.
Eventually this person will get fed up with you), no one at ASC wants to be
viewed by police as having helped you in any way.

[Kelly Phillips]

Post by David B.
I have no idea of the facts.

Tell us something that we don't know.

[David Brooks]

Post by Kelly Phillips

Post by David B.
I have no idea of the facts.

Tell us something that we don't know.

OK

Have you read my posts here?

*Eben Upton - Life Before Raspberry Pi*

[Mike Easter]

Post by David Brooks
Eben Upton - Life Before Raspberry Pi

#1, I didn't watch your 30 min vid about old computers, but the 'back
story' about Eben Upton and the early dev of the RPi is an interesting
story.

EU is 46 y/o, a Welshman. In 2006 he was 28, when the seeds of the dev
of the RPi developed, as an idea for a simple computer that would be an
economical way for the computer science students to study computing. He
already had a PhD in CS after his BA in physics and engineering, and
went on to get an MBA in biz while working in industry.

The guys who dev/d the RPi, in conjunction w/ Broadcom and as a 'charity'
foundation weren't really expecting the 'evolution' of the board to
become so 'strong' and popular.

Great story. I would love to replace my current old RPi 3B w/ the
now RPi 5, which would serve as a capable desktop computer, or any
of a number of other roles. Even the 3B is a functional desktop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Upton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_Foundation

Post by David Brooks
Eben Christopher Upton CBE FREng DFBCS [4][5] (born 5 April 1978) is
the Welsh CEO of Raspberry Pi (Trading) Ltd., which runs the
engineering and trading activities of the Raspberry Pi
Foundation.[6][7][8][9] He is responsible for the overall software
and hardware architecture of the Raspberry Pi device.[10][11][12] He
is a former technical director and ASIC architect for Broadcom.[13]

[T i m]

On 27/04/2024 18:48, Mike Easter wrote:

<snip>

Post by Mike Easter
I would love to replace my current old RPi 3B w/ the
now RPi 5, which would serve as a capable desktop computer, or any
of a number of other roles.

+1

I run a RPi2B as an OMV NAS (24/7, 3TB)

https://www.openmediavault.org/

and a RPi3B as an Octopi / Ocoprint Host.

https://octoprint.org/

Post by Mike Easter
Even the 3B is a functional desktop.

<snip>

By a very stretched use of the word functional. ;-)

I have most of the RPi's up to and including the 4 and I would say the 3
is the first that could be real useable desktop, if your desktop could
be a Linux one (and you use a GUI) and don't mind waiting for stuff that is.

One of the things that draws me to any computing solution is low energy
draw and low noise / silent and that's why my RPi4 is in a passive
cooling case.

https://flirc.tv/products/flirc-raspberrypi4-kodi

It seems that as the models have evolved they have more commonly
required active cooling, if you don't want them throttling.

Cheers, T i m

[Mike Easter]

if your desktop could be a Linux one (and you use a GUI) and don't mind
waiting for stuff that is.

'Of course' my distro on the RPi is Raspbian (now RPi OS) and I don't
open a lot of browser tabs at a time when I use it. Its mail/news is Claws.

It is a Debian base and a OpenBox-LXDE WM/DE. I like lightweight
distro/s and/but a GUI of course.

On 'various' system I wait some, sometimes because I'm running live off
USB2. The RPi is just a SD card.

On other old desktops that have 'plenty of' ram (compared to the RPi3b)
I would rather install an SSD in a spare HD bay and run the live stuff
off that; then the live would load from the SSD and run in ram. That
would eliminate some 'waiting'.

[David Brooks]

Post by Mike Easter

Post by David Brooks
Eben Upton - Life Before Raspberry Pi

#1, I didn't watch your 30 min vid about old computers, but the 'back
story' about Eben Upton and the early dev of the RPi is an interesting
story.
EU is 46 y/o, a Welshman.  In 2006 he was 28, when the seeds of the dev
of the RPi developed, as an idea for a simple computer that would be an
economical way for the computer science students to study computing.  He
already had a PhD in CS after his BA in physics and engineering, and
went on to get an MBA in biz while working in industry.
The guys who dev/d the RPi, in conjunction w/ Broadcom and as a 'charity'
foundation weren't really expecting the 'evolution' of the board to
become so 'strong' and popular.
Great story.  I would love to replace my current old RPi 3B w/ the
now RPi 5, which would serve as a capable desktop computer, or any
of a number of other roles.  Even the 3B is a functional desktop.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Upton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_Foundation

Post by David Brooks
Eben Christopher Upton CBE FREng DFBCS [4][5] (born 5 April 1978) is
the Welsh CEO of Raspberry Pi (Trading) Ltd., which runs the
engineering and trading activities of the Raspberry Pi
Foundation.[6][7][8][9] He is responsible for the overall software
and hardware architecture of the Raspberry Pi device.[10][11][12] He
is a former technical director and ASIC architect for Broadcom.[13]

I posted this to Eben:-

From your description, I suspect I'm a bit like your dad. The computers
I played with as an apprentice had thermionic valves! You can find out
about me here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/boaterdave

I recently uncovered a photograph of my younger son, Nick, 'working
away' at our BBC B computer which I'd bought on leaving the navy in
1983. You'll find a copy of the piccie here:-
Loading Image...

Nick was around 13 years of age at the time that photograph was taken.
Like you, he had been 'nuts' about electronics and computing from around
the age of seven! He obtained a good degree in Physics from Manchester
university and went straight on to ICL in Stevenage where he stayed
until, at the age of just 28, he sadly collapsed and died in January
1999. No obvious cause for his death was found at his autopsy. To me he
was both a friend AND a guru who helped me whenever I got stuck with any
computer problem. As you might imagine, my wife and I still miss him
terribly. We celebrated our golden wedding anniversary in December -
yes, we were just children when we married!

FYI, I keep my narrowboat not far from IBM in Warwick; I bought it
shortly after that tragic event and am pleased to advise that our
boating has been highly therapeutic.

I tell you all this because I wish to ask you a question. I trust you
will forgive my impertinence!

I have read this article on Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickjacking

"Clickjacking is possible because seemingly harmless features of HTML
web pages can be employed to perform unexpected actions.

A clickjacked page tricks a user into performing undesired actions by
clicking on a concealed link. On a clickjacked page, the attackers load
another page over it in a transparent layer. The users think that they
are clicking visible buttons, while they are actually performing actions
on the hidden/invisible page. The hidden page may be an authentic page;
therefore, the attackers can trick users into performing actions which
the users never intended. There is no way of tracing such actions to the
attackers later, as the users would have been genuinely authenticated on
the hidden page."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickjacking

I believe THIS site a prime example of a 'tainted' web page:-
https://web.archive.org/web/20161002161328/http://identit.ca/ (please
review the page source code carefully - around line 472)

I have been told that I am wrong - but I'd welcome YOUR view. What WOULD
that - somewhat hidden - code be doing on that web page?

Following my discussions on the Microsoft TechNet forums, the original
www.IdentIt.ca site has now been taken down.

Thank you for listening!

David B.

[Kelly Phillips]

Post by David Brooks
I posted this to Eben:-
From your description, I suspect I'm a bit like your dad.

<snip>

Oh, no, can a reference to your dead son be far behind?

Post by David Brooks
I recently uncovered a photograph of my younger son, Nick

And there it is, as sure as the sun rose this morning.

You may be a total scumbag, David, but at least you're a predictable scumbag.

[DFS]

Post by T i m

Post by David Brooks
I posted this to Eben:-
From your description, I suspect I'm a bit like your dad.

<snip>
Oh, no, can a reference to your dead son be far behind?

Post by David Brooks
I recently uncovered a photograph of my younger son, Nick

And there it is, as sure as the sun rose this morning.
You may be a total scumbag, David, but at least you're a predictable scumbag.

I notice you have a hardon for David Brooks.

Why?

[Kelly Phillips]

Post by David Brooks

Post by Kelly Phillips

Post by David B.
I have no idea of the facts.

Tell us something that we don't know.

OK
Have you read my posts here?

Sure, especially your posts where you stalk, slime, and harass the developers of
etrecheck and clamxav.

So when will you tell us something we don't already know?

[Chris]

Post by David B.

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 25, 2024 at 6:13:39 AM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 23, 2024 at 4:41:23 PM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

Investigating - that's a word I prefer to use.
I'm guessing he's evading YOUR research too, eh?!!

I don't stalk people.

I take that to mean that *you don't care* a damn if he makes a living by
illegal means.
He's said himself that EtreCheck cannot and does not support him
financially.
Maybe his 'partner' supports him financially. I have no idea of the facts.

That's clearly obvious. Why jump to the conclusion of "nefarious activity"?
He's doing something he values and may get money as a "side hustle".

[T i m]

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 25, 2024 at 6:13:39 AM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks

Post by Tyrone
On Apr 23, 2024 at 4:41:23 PM EDT, "David Brooks"

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

Investigating - that's a word I prefer to use.
I'm guessing he's evading YOUR research too, eh?!!

I don't stalk people.

And you could as well as it was just 'National Stalking Week'. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[Mike Easter]

Post by Tyrone

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Still stalking this person?

Investigating -  that's a word I prefer to use.

Finding the ideal term for what BDB is doing (wrong) is difficult/imprecise.

IMO it doesn't actually rise to the level of 'stalking', but then that
would depend on what kind of arbitrary def one would impose on stalking.

It is certainly not 'investigating' in the conventional sense because
there is NOT a conventional 'case' to investigate, and BDB is NOT a
qualified 'investigator' of any kind of case, nor even a particularly
adept internet searcher.

To me, the 'sense' of it (its nonsensical/foolish nature) is one of
gathering what information he can find or obtain in /some/ way of
information which is 'less public' for purposes of needling or annoying
or abasing someone, as a manifestation of his vengeful or spiteful nature.

So, in that sense, one might compare it to stalking, because a stalker's
purpose might be to harass or annoy the stalked.

I've compared the def/s of stalking in the wiktionary and wp, which wp
spends more words on it, including a fairly extensive section on def/s.

The simpler wiktionary def doesn't seem to apply; the stalked in fear of
life or harm.

The more elaborate wp def can, except from the criminal def. Even the
wp article section on psychology and behavior of the stalker doesn't
encompass BDB well such as my opinion about spite, annoying, belittling,
or abasing.

[Mike Easter]

Post by Mike Easter
The more elaborate wp def can, except from the criminal def.
It makes it a criminal offence, punishable by up to six months'
imprisonment, to make a course of conduct which amounts to
harassment of another on two or more occasions. The court can also
issue a restraining order, which carries a maximum punishment of five
years' imprisonment if breached.

So, I suppose a BDB 'investigation' target could go to the trouble of
seeking restraint of his harassment, because I do think his online
actions definitely rise to the level of harassment, but whether a court
would agree is another thing. I would imagine the court would NOT want
itself 'buried' in all of the harassment mischief that goes on on the
internet.

I seem to recall there used to be some kind of online books which
enabled one to be his own 'DIY lawyer' in terms of giving helpful
information about how to take some kind of legal 'action' one could do
themselves.

Ah, yes. The NOLO people.

Post by Mike Easter
Nolo's mission is to help consumers and small businesses find answers
to their everyday legal and business questions.

[Kelly Phillips]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:41:23 +0100, David Brooks

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Is there a stalker support group near you that you could join? Regular meetings
might go a long way toward scratching that incessant itch.

[David Brooks]

Post by Kelly Phillips
On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:41:23 +0100, David Brooks

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Is there a stalker support group near you that you could join? Regular meetings
might go a long way toward scratching that incessant itch.

Investigator - that's the word I prefer to use.

I'm guessing he's evading YOUR research too, eh?!!

[Kelly Phillips]

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:15:26 +0100, David Brooks

Post by David Brooks

Post by Kelly Phillips
On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:41:23 +0100, David Brooks

Post by David Brooks
Can anyone find anything similar about John Daniel, aka 'etresoft'???

Is there a stalker support group near you that you could join? Regular meetings
might go a long way toward scratching that incessant itch.

Investigator - that's the word I prefer to use.

Of course you do, but stalker and slimer are more accurate.