Post by Kerr-Mudd, JohnOn Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:13:05 -0700
Post by Bob CasanovaOn Mon, 24 Feb 2025 11:36:09 +0000, the following appeared
Post by J. J. Lodder[talk.origins added]
Post by David B."Secrets of the Cell with Michael Behe"
http://youtu.be/gw94qm4qdn8
The video is about half an hour long. I found the content absolutely
fascinating.
No longer do I believe in Darwin's Theory of Evolution!
Darwin was a Bad Boy who messed up Paley's watch.
Denton claims that creationists like Behe and Phillip Johnson
misinterpreted his first book as being anti-evolution. Johnson may have
misinterpreted the first book, but Behe has pretty much always used the
stupidity to only fool the rubes into thinking that Denton's arguments
were anti-evolution. Behe has enough on the ball to understand that
biological evolution is a fact of nature, and has used the obfuscation
and denial to mix up the rube's understanding of the difference between
biological evolution and the "Darwinism" that Behe claims to have issues
with.
The example that likely most exemplifies the Beheian stupidity is what
he did to the IDiotic whale fossil gap argument that Sternberg had been
working on for over 7 years at the Discovery Institute. All those years
of effort were destroyed when Behe came up with his devolution
stupidity. Behe pointed out that evolution by breaking genes and making
them non functional was a common occurrence in producing something that
could be selected for if it occurred in an environment that would favor
such a deleterious mutation. There is no doubt that gene loss has
occurred among extant lineages for billions of years, but all extant
lineages have survived that loss of genes and have evolved into what
they are today.
Behe pointed out the obvious that if such a gene loss had selective
advantage in the existing environment that such events would be selected
for as they likely had for billions of years. It is difficult to
believe, but Behe's whale argument was that whales were an example of
Darwinian evolution that would have been expected to have selected for
all the genes that whales lost as they adapted to an aquatic
environment. As crazy as it was Behe claimed that whales had evolved
without designer intervention because Behe's designer would not have
designed whales the way in which they had actually evolved. He really
claimed that the type of evolution that had created whales was the type
of evolution expected to be due to Darwinian mechanism. Years of
dishonest whale fossil gap effort by Sternberg were flushed down the
toilet with one stupid article.
When first confronted by the Beheian stupidity Nyikos and Glenn, at
first, tried to deny what Behe had written, but there could be no
misinterpretation. Behe specifically stated that evolution by breaking
things would be expected to be selected for if they adapted an organism
to their environment, and that Darwininan mechanisms would be expected
to exploit such changes. He pointed out all the genes that had been
lost, and claimed that what had occurred was not evolution, but
devolution. Nyikos eventually accepted that Behe was claiming that
whales had evolved by natural mechanisms, but that it was a bad type of
evolution. No matter if what created whales was evolution or
devolution, whales still evolved by natural mechanisms. Glenn is likely
still in denial.
Behe understands that life on earth is the result of biological
evolution. He just wants his designer to be responsible for some of
that evolution (his favorite example is the bacterial flagellum).
Denton also accepts that biological evolution is a fact of nature, but
he no longer cares if his designer had anything to do with it except in
creating a universe where biological evolution could happen.
Ron Okimoto
Post by Kerr-Mudd, JohnPost by Bob CasanovaPost by J. J. LodderGood for you!
Post by David B.If you take the time out to watch this video presentation, I'd be really
interested to learn what YOU think about what you've seen and heard.
May I point you to to the newsgroup talk.origins ?
They are badly in need of fresh creationists there.
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They'll gladly tell you there what they think of Michael Behe,
Perps & Rubes.